167 – The Woke Mind with Ryan Rogers

“I do not believe,” wrote F. A. Hayek in his book The Fatal Conceit, “that the widely held conception of ‘social justice’ either describes a possible state of affairs or is even meaningful.” Hayek would complain “social” was a sort of “weasel word” that carried a lot of unexamined prescriptions. To call something “social justice” is to advocate for something without bothering to fully explore what that something might even be.
What are the philosophical underpinnings of social justice? What does it practically mean, and how could it practically apply. And what ought we to do when the goals of “social justice” conflict with actual justice?
Saving Elephants host Josh Lewis is joined by Ryan Rogers who shares his story of experiencing the social justice movement in graduate school and his efforts to fully understand it origins, merits, and faults.
About Ryan Rogers

Ryan Rogers is a graduate student in clinical mental health counseling. He has a bachelors degree in psychology and a work history in addiction treatment. His latest book, The Woke Mind, will be available in early 2025. It is the sixth book in his series on social justice fanaticism.





Ryan Rogers' insights on the complexities of social justice really resonate, especially when he discusses the philosophical nuances that often get overlooked. His personal journey through the social justice movement adds a valuable perspective on how these concepts can conflict with traditional notions of justice. As a millennial navigating these discussions, I find it crucial to engage with these ideas critically. For those interested in a deeper dive into similar themes, GWYF Guide could offer some intriguing perspectives on navigating these conversations.
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